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(@nguyenlleo87)
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I have align RCE-BL80X esc with hobbywing rpm sensor, magnetic, gov engaged show checked and highlighted green work good. But It doesn't like spoolup, ?

Anyway, I want to use msh brain internal, I have calibrate throttle low and high, and esc have set to airplane mode. But it seems like spoolup kinda fast even I have it set to spoolup=1 in "advance section. "?

Questions 1, would it be okay to have ESC programmed to heli 1 mode "softstart ", for msh brain internal electric governor, Because that mode, does spoolup slowly and this what I looking for. 

Questions 2: if I choose heli mode 1 softstart would it cause any issues to msh internal gov and  Performance?



   
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(@customercare)
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Of course it can be used!
Keep in mind, however, that when the ESC softstart is active, there is no autorotation bailout and if a very brief glitch/failsafe occurs during flight that brings the throttle to zero even for a very, very, very short time, as soon as the signal returns the rotor RPM does not immediately return to steady state since there is no autorotation bailout, but a slow spool up procedure is performed and depending on the altitude of the model you may have an inevitable crash.

Regarding spoolup using the Brain2 governor:
When using airplane mode, FreeWheel should be deactivated, and startup power should be set to 1.
In Brain2 control unit in ADVANCED, Common, Throttle&Gov, to avoid and eliminate possible "delays" in the engine start, the "Dead Zone" parameter must be set to zero and the "MIN" value of Throttle Out must be set perfectly.



   
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(@nguyenlleo87)
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Sorry but I don't see Dead Band" parameter from throttle&gov in advance section 



   
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I apologize for the error, it is not "dead band" but it is "dead zone". I correct the post.



   
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(@nguyenlleo87)
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@customercare 

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Hi, on ikon I have startup at 1, but I want it more slower startup, would it be ok to get on esc programming card set auto start up from 25s to 10sec??

 



   
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You can try this.



   
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(@frans-van-harlingen)
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Hi, I am in doubt to use the governor of the Yeti Mezon ESC or the internal governor in the Brain2. I prefer to use the internal governor.
My question is: I have setup the internal governor like in your post above.
The problem I have is that the motor starts to rotate between Out MIN 1055 and 1060, but stops only at or below Out MIN 1045. 
I have set the motor on Out MIN 1042 so the motor starts and stops. I can adjust the dead zone time so that the motor starts at or shortly after I turn it on. The dead zone is 8 or 10.

But does effect the slow start? I overlooked this part in the initial setup and tried the slow start with OUT MIN on 1000 and adjustment of the dead zone of 33. The initial start was really hard with these settings, so hard the 600cm blades nearly hit the blade holders. I can imagine the gap in Min OUT between 1000 and 1042 will result in this hard initial startup.



   
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The correct procedure requires that, first, the Throttle channel excursion (ATV) be set in the transmitter so that in panel 5 makes the signal go from 0 to 100%.
Then, with Dead Zone still at zero as per the factory preset/factory default, you need to adjust in panel 12 of the wizard the Out Min and Out Max values to have the correct and full range of operation by the ESC (in your case 1042/1043)
Then if as in your case the shutdown and the motor start do not match and the motor starts with delay (if it is not due to the soft start of the ESC that you should disable) you can then use in Advanced, Common tab, Thrott.&Gov the parameter "DeadZone" to Compensate the difference between the value of the throttle that makes the motor shutdown and the value that makes the motor start (in your case 1055 - 1045 = 10).



   
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(@frans-van-harlingen)
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Thanks for your reply.

I did a check on the setup with some minor adjustments, reset the settings in the ESC. Hopefully the harsh initial motor start-up is history. Can't check it at this moment with blades on. I assume that with blades on, the initial start-up is slower.
The Yeti Mezon is set-up in fast response mode which that has a acceleration function. I have set it to 3 secs for now and can adjust it. No option for a slow-start in fast response mode. According to the manual of the ESC and a visually, the acceleration time doesn't effect the bailout function.   



   
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